| "What is a Golden Doodle?" A Golden Doodle is a hybrid of a Golden Retriever and a Standard Poodle. This cross provides the best benefits of both breeds. Doodles provide a drastic difference in shedding, and sometimes almost no shedding. So families with allergy issues often can tolerate Doodles. Not to mention that Doodles can have very wavy to just slightly wavy hair that can be of the texture of a golden or of the soft silky hair of the poodle or anything in between! Their intelligence is above and beyond average as well. This is probably because of the high intelligence of the Golden Retriever and even higher more complex intelligence of the Poodle combined with the faster maturing traits of the Golden Retriever. There is a benefit of Hybrid Vigor in that genetic defects that are common to specific breeds can not be replicated in a cross of two breeds. This provides a healthier puppy that will be free of some of the inherited defects that can come with specific single breeds. Its been known that they can be healthier and live longer than either of the breeds individually because of this benefit. But you don't have to take our word for it, do a search, you can see for yourself. Personality wise, if you've ever known a golden doodle then hands down you know what amazing dogs they are! If you don't know one, you definitely should! |
| Doodle Differences |
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"What are the differences in the coats or fur"
Golden Doodles can have a combination coat of both fur and hair.
Golden Retrievers have fur which grows only to a certain length and then falls out or "sheds". There is an over coat and undercoat to shed water and to insulate.
The Golden Retriever fur coat has the dander, which for some people triggers allergies. The coat changes for a thicker and warmer winter coat and a thinner and
lighter summer coat. These times of year the shedding increases, more so in the spring than in fall. The coat does shed a little all year though. It has been noticed
that lighter colored Golden Retrievers, like the English Cremes, tend to shed a little more. This may be true, or it may just be because the white fur is noticed more.
Poodles don't have fur, rather they have hair which grows and needs to be trimmed. The coat is softer cotton type of coat. So when this coat is brushed its very
fluffy and full. Because of it's fine consistency it can get mats. Poodles do not have dander so that is why they are considered Hypoallergenic. While some hair
may fall out or comb out, like ours does, they are not considered to shed. Some poodles have tighter curls and some have looser curls. Both of our Poodles have the
looser type of curl. When a poodle is cut short, their coat feels like velvet. When it is left long, sometimes they can even look like doodles.
Golden Doodles vary in their coat consistency and it depends on how much of a percentage there is of golden retriever or poodle. Generally choosing a puppy
that has more wave in coat will result in a Doodle that has less shedding. Golden Doodles also take quite a while for their coats to fully mature. The process can
make their coats seem quite different at various ages. Golden Retrievers take at least 3 -4 years for their full coat to blossom. Poodles do not take that long at all. A
Golden Doodle may look much like a Golden Retriever puppy as a young puppy and then the coat may become wild crazy and wispy. It may also appear quite
uneven, especially around 5 -6months old. It takes patience but it will fill in, but probably not until well over a year old.
Grooming: Trimming it may help it to look more 'full'. Unlike a Golden Retriever, but like a Poodle, the beard and furry tusks may grow in the chin area quite quickly.
This is easy to trim and makes for a better look. The fur may look wispy around they eyes and may flip forward. A little trim there may make it look much more full
and give it that adorable Doodle look, however be careful not to trim that too short. A full body trim to get rid of the wispy look can be done around 6-9 months.
Depending on the look you like, a full groom trim can be done once to twice a year. Checking for mats around the ears, toes, collar, armpits, and hind quarters
should be done monthly. Trimming the fur on/between the pads of the feet should be done every 3 -4 months, especially important to have it trimmed for winter to
avoid ice collection there and for better gripping. Bathing can be done as often as needed, especially in mud season! Just watch for dry skin. You can use a dog
shampoo or Pantene and the conditioner is great too. The biggest thing is to make sure the coat is rinsed well and fully dry before putting collars back on. Also use
caution that the ears are dry and the inner ear hair is removed to avoid retaining moisture and forming yeast infections or ear infections.
Golden Doodles can have a combination coat of both fur and hair.
Golden Retrievers have fur which grows only to a certain length and then falls out or "sheds". There is an over coat and undercoat to shed water and to insulate.
The Golden Retriever fur coat has the dander, which for some people triggers allergies. The coat changes for a thicker and warmer winter coat and a thinner and
lighter summer coat. These times of year the shedding increases, more so in the spring than in fall. The coat does shed a little all year though. It has been noticed
that lighter colored Golden Retrievers, like the English Cremes, tend to shed a little more. This may be true, or it may just be because the white fur is noticed more.
Poodles don't have fur, rather they have hair which grows and needs to be trimmed. The coat is softer cotton type of coat. So when this coat is brushed its very
fluffy and full. Because of it's fine consistency it can get mats. Poodles do not have dander so that is why they are considered Hypoallergenic. While some hair
may fall out or comb out, like ours does, they are not considered to shed. Some poodles have tighter curls and some have looser curls. Both of our Poodles have the
looser type of curl. When a poodle is cut short, their coat feels like velvet. When it is left long, sometimes they can even look like doodles.
Golden Doodles vary in their coat consistency and it depends on how much of a percentage there is of golden retriever or poodle. Generally choosing a puppy
that has more wave in coat will result in a Doodle that has less shedding. Golden Doodles also take quite a while for their coats to fully mature. The process can
make their coats seem quite different at various ages. Golden Retrievers take at least 3 -4 years for their full coat to blossom. Poodles do not take that long at all. A
Golden Doodle may look much like a Golden Retriever puppy as a young puppy and then the coat may become wild crazy and wispy. It may also appear quite
uneven, especially around 5 -6months old. It takes patience but it will fill in, but probably not until well over a year old.
Grooming: Trimming it may help it to look more 'full'. Unlike a Golden Retriever, but like a Poodle, the beard and furry tusks may grow in the chin area quite quickly.
This is easy to trim and makes for a better look. The fur may look wispy around they eyes and may flip forward. A little trim there may make it look much more full
and give it that adorable Doodle look, however be careful not to trim that too short. A full body trim to get rid of the wispy look can be done around 6-9 months.
Depending on the look you like, a full groom trim can be done once to twice a year. Checking for mats around the ears, toes, collar, armpits, and hind quarters
should be done monthly. Trimming the fur on/between the pads of the feet should be done every 3 -4 months, especially important to have it trimmed for winter to
avoid ice collection there and for better gripping. Bathing can be done as often as needed, especially in mud season! Just watch for dry skin. You can use a dog
shampoo or Pantene and the conditioner is great too. The biggest thing is to make sure the coat is rinsed well and fully dry before putting collars back on. Also use
caution that the ears are dry and the inner ear hair is removed to avoid retaining moisture and forming yeast infections or ear infections.
F1 Golden Doodle (50%/50%) The "regular" type and original type of Golden Doodle is a 50%/50% cross from a breeding of a Golden Retriever x Standard Poodle. This is the "First Generation Golden Doodle". There can be some variation in the outcome of their puppies such as in coat type, shedding, and framing, but once a good breeding pair is established their offspring can be quite predictable. A detailed breeder will be able to give you a good estimate, but there are variations. Personality wise they are pretty consistent. |
In case you were wondering about F2 Doodles These are Doodle x Doodle Crosses. Right now we do not offer these crosses. They are basically
still like having a 50%x 50% cross. So knowing this, when we are breeding our Golden Doodle we prefer to breed to create F1b doodles so that
we can create Doodles with either more Poodle or more Golden Retriever traits. In the future we may do this, but at this time we do not.
still like having a 50%x 50% cross. So knowing this, when we are breeding our Golden Doodle we prefer to breed to create F1b doodles so that
we can create Doodles with either more Poodle or more Golden Retriever traits. In the future we may do this, but at this time we do not.
"What is a Sugar Doodle?"
"SugarDoodle" is the term we use for when we create Golden Doodle puppies that have the English Creme Golden Retriever Lines in them. This creates a beautiful
Doodle who is much lighter in color than the average Doodle and has more of the English Creme Golden Retriever features with the decreased shedding of the
Poodles. The English Creme lines of the Golden Retrievers do appear to shed a little more even than American lines of Golden Retrievers so there may still be some
shedding in a Sugar Doodle puppy that has these lines, however it will be minimal. English Creme lines of the Golden Retriever are still purebred but they are a
more exquisite variation within the breed where they tend to lean more towards the slightly shorter, stockier framing scale and the coat is much lighter, sometimes
almost white. The coat also tends to be softer and silkier. These lines tend to be even more mellow. They are truly show stoppers. So using them to create a Golden
Doodle is like getting a puppy that is just as white and sweet as sugar. Hence the name "Sugar Doodles". They have been stunning!
"SugarDoodle" is the term we use for when we create Golden Doodle puppies that have the English Creme Golden Retriever Lines in them. This creates a beautiful
Doodle who is much lighter in color than the average Doodle and has more of the English Creme Golden Retriever features with the decreased shedding of the
Poodles. The English Creme lines of the Golden Retrievers do appear to shed a little more even than American lines of Golden Retrievers so there may still be some
shedding in a Sugar Doodle puppy that has these lines, however it will be minimal. English Creme lines of the Golden Retriever are still purebred but they are a
more exquisite variation within the breed where they tend to lean more towards the slightly shorter, stockier framing scale and the coat is much lighter, sometimes
almost white. The coat also tends to be softer and silkier. These lines tend to be even more mellow. They are truly show stoppers. So using them to create a Golden
Doodle is like getting a puppy that is just as white and sweet as sugar. Hence the name "Sugar Doodles". They have been stunning!
"Are Golden Doodles a Mix or a Mutt?"
Well I guess that depends, as with many things, on who you are talking to. If you are talking to someone who only breeds one specific breed of
dog and believes that only that breed is superior and no other breed should exist, you may get some interesting responses. I don't believe that
only one breed is "the best". I think there are breeds that are best for different situations and different people. I love Golden Retrievers, but if you
want them to herd cattle or sheep, they aren't the dog to do that. Golden Retrievers and Standard Poodles in many ways have similar traits.
Poodles don't shed as much and think on an even higher level making training them a dream come true. Golden Retrievers are loving and
affectionately loyal and mature rather quickly, making getting through puppy hood relatively painless. Golden Doodles are the best of both
worlds. They are not considered a mix or even a mutt but rather a "Cross" or a "Hybrid" this is because the parentage of a golden doodle is
known, unlike that of the mixes or mutts. The expected outcome has some variations but is predictable within that range. Also a good breeder
only breeds healthy and sound dogs that have had the appropriate veterinary testing to clear them as healthy for breeding. These are planned
breedings of two purebred breeds in order to create a hybrid that compliments the best of both of those breeds. The Golden Doodle personality
is quite consistent and predictable and that is why Golden Doodles have become so unbelievably popular!
Well I guess that depends, as with many things, on who you are talking to. If you are talking to someone who only breeds one specific breed of
dog and believes that only that breed is superior and no other breed should exist, you may get some interesting responses. I don't believe that
only one breed is "the best". I think there are breeds that are best for different situations and different people. I love Golden Retrievers, but if you
want them to herd cattle or sheep, they aren't the dog to do that. Golden Retrievers and Standard Poodles in many ways have similar traits.
Poodles don't shed as much and think on an even higher level making training them a dream come true. Golden Retrievers are loving and
affectionately loyal and mature rather quickly, making getting through puppy hood relatively painless. Golden Doodles are the best of both
worlds. They are not considered a mix or even a mutt but rather a "Cross" or a "Hybrid" this is because the parentage of a golden doodle is
known, unlike that of the mixes or mutts. The expected outcome has some variations but is predictable within that range. Also a good breeder
only breeds healthy and sound dogs that have had the appropriate veterinary testing to clear them as healthy for breeding. These are planned
breedings of two purebred breeds in order to create a hybrid that compliments the best of both of those breeds. The Golden Doodle personality
is quite consistent and predictable and that is why Golden Doodles have become so unbelievably popular!
| "What one is better?" That is purely a matter of preference. They all will have that wonderful Golden Doodle personality. There isn't going to be a difference depending on what type F1 or F1b, in my opinion. This is where we can work with you to find out what it is that you are looking for in both appearance and personality. We would never breed any of our dogs if they had any allergies, health issues, or temperament issues. Every litter should be fairly consistent amongst each litter mate. However, every litter has the more reserved or the more bold personality pup too and we spend hours and hours with these puppies, really get to know them. We can help pair you up with just the right puppy, all you have to do is let us know what you're looking for. |
| Kiwi Karma Emma March 2009 (Kiwi is not normally that dark- it must have been the angle of the lighting) |
Golden Retriever, Golden Doodle, and Standard Poodle
| Poodle Emma and Doodle Karma |
| Brandi-7 month old Sugar Doodle |
| Our Poodle Emma- with her longer coat-looks almost like a Doodle! |
| Karma our Golden Doodle |
| Our Poodle Emma- with her longer coat-looks almost like a Doodle! |
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| "What are the different types ?" By selective breeding, certain qualities and traits can really be promoted in the golden doodles. |
F1b Godlen Doodle (25%/75% or 75%/25%) The backcross type of Golden Doodle is a 75%/25% cross from a breeding of a Golden Doodle with one of the purebreds. There are two ways this can occur with either a cross of a Golden Doodle x Golden Retriever for more Golden Retriever traits or a cross of a Golden Doodle x Standard Poodle for more Poodle traits. This produces a puppy that has much more predictable qualities. |
| Golden Retriever x Standard Poodle Original Golden Doodle Creates: F1b Golden Doodles Cross %: 50% Poodle/50% Golden Retriever Coat Type: Varies, generally moderately evenor loose type wave Shedding: Varies, will shed some, but far lessthan golden retrievers do. Approx. up to 10% of what Golden Retrievers shed Allergies: Varies depending on coat, will have some dander but will be much less than Golden Retrievers. Good for families with mild to moderate allergies to dander. Framing: Varies, however English Creme lines of Golden Retrievers tend tobe more dominant. More likely to have Golden Retriever frame. Grooming: Varies, depends on coat type. Probably not much grooming, maybe 1-2 times a year. May need to trim facial areas or a a few wispy areas. Perfect For: Families with mild allergies or those looking for the most Golden Retriever looks in with the benefit of decreased shedding of a Golden Doodle. Even easier to train than Golden Retrievers, yes it is true! |
| Karma F1 Golden Doodle |
| Jax F1 Light Golden Doodle |
| Jax F1 Light Golden Doodle |
| Ariyanna F1 Sugar Doodle |
| Ariyanna F1 Sugar Doodle |
| F1b Sugar Doodle (more Retriever) 8 wks |
| F1b Golden Doodle (more Poodle) 8 wks |
| Karma our Golden Doodle |
| Golden Doodle x Golden Retriever F1b-More Golden Retriever Creates: F1b Golden Doodles Cross %: 25% Poodle/75% Golden Retriever Coat Type: Varies, but leans towards less curl most likely, more fur type coat. Shedding: Varies, will shed some, but far less than golden retrievers do. Approximately up to 1/4 of what Golden Retrievers shed. Allergies: Varies depending on coat, will have some dander but will be less than Golden Retrievers. Good for families with only lightly mild allergies to dander. Framing: Varies, however English Creme lines of Golden Retrievers tend to be more dominant. More likely to have the stockier Golden Retriever frame. Grooming: Varies, depends on coat type. Probably not much grooming, may need to trim facial hair or a few wispy areas. Perfect For: Families with mild allergies or those looking for the most Golden Retriever looks with the benefit of decreased shedding of a Golden Doodle. Even easier to train than Golden Retrievers, yes it is true! |
| F1b-More Poodle Creates: F1b Golden Doodles Cross %: 75% Poodle/25% Golden Retriever Coat Type: Varies, but leans towards more wave, more hair (less fur) type coat. Shedding: Very little to almost none. Least Shedding of all GoldenDoodles. Very possible to hardly shed at all. Allergies: Varies depending on coat, may have very minimal dander to no dander. Best for those with dander allergies to dogs. Good for families with moderate or strong allergies to dander. Framing: Varies. Will be the avg size of a golden retriever and under the coat possibly slightly more slender. Grooming: Varies, depends on coat type. Probably need to be groomed 2 or 3 times a year depending on preferences. Perfect For: Families with dander allergies of moderate/strong or those looking for the most non-shedding Golden Doodle, or for the most wavy type of coat. Even easier to train than Golden Retrievers, yes it is true! |